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Someone on the AlternateHistory.com forums posted a flag for a 19th century Scandinavian Union. He wanted a flag for the unified Scandinavia created by the Scandinavist Surge event chain in Paradox Interactive's Victoria that didn't look like the flag of the old Kalmar Union.

Since I had been walking around with similar ideas for a while myself, I figured I might as well give it a try. This was the result, and I'm quite pleased with it overall. Sweden may be the dominant party on the flag, but that's only natural, as any unified Scandinavia created in the 19th century would most definitely have Sweden as its most dominant member.

A scenario like this would most likely need a PoD further back than the 19th century to be realistic, as there weren't exactly a lack of hard-feelings between Sweden and Denmark, but something along the lines of it did indeed come close to happening. The King of Sweden-Norway did give Denmark considerable military aid in the First War of Schleswig, creating a sense of brotherhood among many of the people of Scandinavia, for instance.

When the King of Sweden-Norway wanted to intervene on Denmark's side in the Second War of Schleswig, however, his efforts were denounced by the Swedish parliament and the Pan-Scandinavian movement was thus shattered.

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History: The Birth of the Commonwealth of Scandinavia
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When the Prussians invaded Schleswig-Holstein in 1864, initiating the Second war of Schleswig, they found that Bismark's political calculations had been off. Not only did Denmark continue to put up stiff resistance, but Sweden-Norway once again came to their aid as well, as they had once before in the First War of Schleswig more than a decade ago.

While the Prussians might still have been able to take Holstein despite the unexpected Scandinavian resistance, Bismarck saw the potential future threat of a reborn - and hostile - "Lion of the North". He therefore offered a compromise: Schleswig-Holstein would be split in two, with Schleswig staying with Denmark and Holstein going to Germany.

Denmark reluctantly agreed to this compromise, as it saw that long-term resistance against Prussia would most likely be fatal. While this could hardly be considered a victory in the global scheme of things, it did have a profound effect on the people of Norway, Sweden and Denmark alike. The Pan-Scandinavist movement that had been formed after Sweden-Norway's participation on Denmark's side in the First War of Schleswig grew stronger, and a sense of common cultural, linguistic and historical heritage replaced the feelings of patriotism to one country alone.

The King of Sweden capitalized on this, suggesting to the King of Denmark a return to the days of the Kalmar Union, when all three kingdoms were as one. Denmark, no longer in a position to ever becoming a major power again, eventually accepted his proposal. On the 19th of August 1867, the three kingdoms were once again formally united. The Commonwealth of the Three Crowns of Scandinavia , or just the Commonwealth of Scandinavia, was thus born.

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:iconxalisco:
Xalisco Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2014
Sorry, this image could be used in a web?
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014
Depends. What did you plan to use it for?
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:iconxalisco:
Xalisco Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014
in one history
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:icontardis218:
Tardis218 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2014
what's the shade blue you used for the flag?
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2014
The one from the Swedish flag. I have no idea what it's called, if that's what you're asking. Here are the numbers if that's of any use to you though:
Cyan: 100
Magenta: 44
Yellow: 0
Black: 42
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Tardis218 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2014
thanks, I've been designing flags for Scandinavia for Victoria 2, and I needed the specific color.   
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014
No problem, have fun.
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Alternateflags Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014
This is a nice looking flag.
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Monsieur-Crasque Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014
This is glorious! I love it! I think you made the ultimate Scandinavian flag. I get a surge of patriotism when I see this :happybounce: 
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Archeim Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014
Nice. Love  [link] and [link]
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:iconbatlord:
batlord Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
I love this ! It's way better than the very bland Kalmar flag (and hint at the Swedish supremacy) :D

I'm doing an AAR (after action report) for Scandinavia in Victoria 2, can I please use this for my introduction post ? (maybe i can even add it in game, that would be awesome)
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Good to hear!

Feel free to use it for AARs etc. but keep in mind that I took some liberties with the design. The modern Norwegian flag was introduced roughly the same year Victoria 2 starts, whereas the white on red saltire I have used here was a much older proposal that was never used. People might point that out to you on the Paradox forums as well. My flag has been brought up by other people in discussions involving the Kalmar flag in Victoria, and subsequently shot down for being too ahistorical, so I would know. :)
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:iconbatlord:
batlord Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Thansk !
The reason I like this flag is not about historical correctness, but about awesomeness :)
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Figured. Just thought I'd point it out in case someone decides to call you on it on the forums or something. :D
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vasos82 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
It's very nice ! I love flag and i am from Sweden !!! [link]
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012
A lot of Swedes seem to like this flag, for obvious reasons. XD
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DevineEmperorMeiji Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012
:iconsealofapprovalplz: That is one awesome flag.
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012
Thanks! :D
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CYANlDE Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist
I APPROVE OF THIS :iconheeplz:
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:iconironsides11:
ironsides11 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011
I really like the flag. Its striking, like the union jack!
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2011
Thanks! A design sort of like the Union Jack was what I was going for; good to hear that I was successful in that regard.
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Alisbet Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2011
Cool design. :) I am assuming that Finland is part of this design too although it was most likely not designed at that time because Finland was not independent yet.
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011
The blue-on-white in this case is the blue of Sweden on top of the white cross of Denmark, so no Finland, no.
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:iconwolfwithglasses:
WolfwithGlasses Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2011
A revive of the Kalmar Union?
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2011
Kind of, but not quite. While the Kalmar Union was a dynastic union of the Scandinavian countries, this is the flag of something more along the lines of Germany's federal empire, with multiple monarchs and one head-monarch at the top.

[link] <--- Some of the historical background involved is included with the map I made for the flag.
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:iconwolfwithglasses:
WolfwithGlasses Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2011
Ah right, thank you.
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ChR1sAlbo Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
this is cool!! like it :D
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2011
Thank you, I am glad you liked it! :D
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:iconcipher80:
Cipher80 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2011
SKANDANAVIANS KICK ASS!!! VIKINGS COME TO MIND!!!
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2011
If you liked this, you should also take a look at the map I made for it. :D
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kazi2000 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
very nice :)
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011
Thanks. :3
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Martin23230 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
I really like it, I just can't help feeling that the crowns make it too Swedish-centred. I can't think of anything better to put there though without making it too complicated by having bits from every nation.

Still an awesome flag.
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
A Scandinavian Union founded in the 19th century would most definitely be Swedish-centred. Denmark hit rock bottom when Prussia grabbed Holstein, and Norway would probably never even go fully independent in a scenario like this.

Also, the three crowns is also an old symbol of Scandinavian unity, and thus a natural thing to put in the centre, even if some people on the Norwegian and Danish side would probably complain about it.

Thanks, glad you liked it.
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TheAresProject Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
The Three Crowns are not a symbol of Scandinavian unity. It comes from the royal insignia of Magnus Eriksson of Sweden, who inherited both Norway and Sweden, and later conquered Scania from the Danish. It was only later that it was used in Denmark's royal arms to show their on-again-off-again rulership of Sweden, which began with the Kalmar Union and ended in 1523. After that the Danish started to interpret it as being a symbol of Scandinavia, while we saw it as symbolic of the King's formal title - King of the Swedes, the Goths and the Wends (Sveriges, Götes och Vendes konung).
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Rarayn Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011
That's pretty interesting, and new to me as well. Thank you once again for clearing up my Sweden-related misconceptions. Still, the crowns I used are somewhat different from Sweden's, aren't they? I guess they're the same in heraldic terms, but there's still a clear distinction between the crowns on the flag and those in the coat of arms of the Kings of Sweden. (Which has something to do with the fact that they're technically the three crowns of Munster, but that's beside the point.)

The only thing else I can think of putting in the middle is the Scandinavian Cross of St. George, and that one's a bit too German-looking to be appropriate.
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TheAresProject Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
The crowns are fine - they, along with the blue and yellow stripes, represent Sweden. Denmark and Norway are represented by the white cross and saltire on the red background. The white saltire might be made to represent Norway as a nation as long as the PoD is before 1821.
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Rarayn Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011
I always intended the white saltire to represent Norway, so I guess it's safe to assume that the PoD is before 1821, yeah.
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NivekVonBeldo Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
The background will be either Yellow(more neutral) or even white, i don't know.. but the flag is pretty nice
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Rarayn Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
Yellow wouldn't work with the white saltire, and white would make the white saltire invisible. The background has to be red to integrate Norway and Denmark; the lack of inclusion would have made them furious. All the colours and symbols used are based on the colours and symbols of the countries in question, so changing something that drastically would ruin the balance.
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2011
It's remarkably feasible as a national flag.

Great work.XD
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
A remarkably feasible flag for a remarkably infeasible concept, really. :XD:

Thanks!
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:iconmdc01957:
mdc01957 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
No problem. :D
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DrBenzer Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2011
very cool flag alright like the colours
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
Thank you, glad you liked it. I normally don't use as many as four colours on a flag, but it was necessary this time.
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TraytheEmperor Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
One of those few flags that made me go :omfg:

Its simple, beautiful and well thought out, a really good combo, can't stop staring at the awesomeness!
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Rarayn Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
Happy to hear it, and glad you liked it! :D
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TraytheEmperor Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:)
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really like this one. Good work!
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:iconrarayn:
Rarayn Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
Thanks! It was actually inspired a bit by some of your union flags, among others.
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